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i don't think someone deserves it at all. >> and the prediction is we could see every bit many as five meg refugees before this is over, neil. >> but incredible. mike, thanks for putting that in perspective. i think of the markets and say painful, nothing like that. merely a thought. ♪♪ >> hi everybody i'm jesse watters forth with gauge jeanine pirro, geraldo rivera dana perino and greg gutfeld. 5:00 o'clock in new york city and this is the five. ♪♪ president biden finally banning russian oil as putin's warm auto ramps up attacks on ukrainian civilians. nether bipartisan pressure biden announcing a end to imported russian energy. but instead of promising to produce more oil hither at home,

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the president pointed the finger at everybody else and doubled downwards on going dark-green. >> i'one thousand going to practice everything i tin can to minimize putin'south price hike at abode. it's merely not true my administrations or policies are holding dorsum domestic energy production. the oil and gas industry has millions of acres leased and nine,000 permits to drill, they could be drilling last week, final twelvemonth. loosening regulations won't, let me say, will not, lower energy prices for families but transforming our economy to run on electrical vehicles powered by make clean free energy with revenue enhancement credits to help families winterize their homes and use less energy, that will help. >> jesse: while president biden focuses on that, americans are getting crushed by surging cost prices. the price striking an all time loftier of $iv.17 with no signs of

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slowing downwardly. and vp kamala harris not doing much better. cheque out these tone deaf comments all american. >> imagine all the heavy duty vehicles that keep our supply lines potent and allow our economic system to abound. imagine that they produced zero emission. well, you all imagined it. that'due south why nosotros're here today. we are also announcing funding for, aye, one of my favorite topics, electric school buses. >> jesse: like she'southward doing a reading at kindergarten. get to her in a 2nd. just i herd some grupp blings from you when biden was blaming energy companies for high prices. >> this is the thing that drives me crazy. call back when the biden white house, i call up the day pull a fast one on news sunday, and a senior advisor came on and said information technology was actually republicans who wanted to defund the police. and i said are they saying that

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with a straight face and effort to get abroad with that? and and then they did for a couple weeks and so dropped it because it's not true. i feel the same way most this energy as well. we were already seeing really high energy prices before russian invaded ukraine, let'southward showtime there and if yous look over the past, you can detect the quotes, we played one this morning of the secretary of energy laughing near high gas prices on november third saying wow, if i had a magic wand i would love to practise that. over and over again you lot can find administration officials saying we're going to have to get through hurting in lodge for us to do what has to exist done considering the world'due south going to end in x years considering of climate change and they basically said the higher prices are what you were going to have to pay. the whole point nearly the leases, what bothers me -- permission to make an analogy. >> jesse: granted. >> dana: imagine you become a new car, you finance a car, you get through all the paperwork, you're so excited. but they won't give you lot the keys. that's what's happening. and then they're saying what do you mean?

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you tin can drill tomorrow. but i don't have the keys to do that. >> jesse: you take the lease but y'all don't have the permit. >> dana: exactly correct. the other thing is they accept tried to become and then much ink from a sympathetic media about how great they've been about trying to get america off fossil fuel and they're outsoaringsing all of their carbon emissions to saudi, venezuela, russian, et cetera. final thing i'd similar to say is when kamala harris says go buy a $50,000 electrical vehicle. on what planet are they living on? it's like she said that nobody saw the omicron variant coming. and so why weren't they planning on any of these russian sanctions on oil and gas before. why do they accept to wait for kicking and screaming and waiting for 76 of america to say nosotros're willing to pay higher prices. why practise they have to look for their poll numbers to say this is what's going to happen. why did they have to expect for nancy pelosi to say no we're doing this and she was going

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through without them. bad day on the energy front even so it could lead to something better and if we're pushing on the door and allows for more exploration in america it's good. >> jesse: you lot have to push hard on these guys. we were pushing for the russian import ban and they caved. maybe there's a chance if the force per unit area builds. >> greg: what, 8% of our imports? that could easily exist absorbed by drilling more or even similar hitting canada up for more. but i similar how joe is framing this. this is a hardship that nosotros must have. he said defending freedom comes at a cost. and that is not true. that is not -- it's the ecology clap trap that comes at a cost. this is non about freedom. at that place would exist no cost if nosotros didn't demonize drilling and shut down lines and demonize fuel. it's not well-nigh beening why information technology's about exposing the destructiveness of the green credo which is part of a larger credo of penalty,

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right? rich countries tin handle this, just pay more gas. it's the poor countries that are going to suffer and it'southward going to be poor people in the the states, right? so you have twitter celebrities like george takai saying they should pay more to back up ukraine just they're not truckers or sales men or uber drivers. this is the aforementioned mentality that we constitute with shutdowns, right? everybody could handle a shutdown if they were in the media because nosotros all did our shows from our living rooms. same people that tell us to alive with it can live with anything. and then that's either climate change, covid, aggrandizement. and in one case you see that you can't unsee it. there'due south an ideology of penalization and it's that yous tin handle the punishment, they're above it. >> jesse: i saw some media today, judge jeanine, and they weren't clamoring for biden to pass out more than permits and leases. they were telling americans you just have to bulldoze slower, you know, don't accelerate too fast. that'southward how you save. put on the sweater, right?

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>> judge jeanine: yeah, well, yous know, they really referred to it as putin's price hike. you know, let'south make the new free energy putin every bit if nosotros didn't hate the guy enough already. look, biden started the war on energy long before putin decided to invade ukraine and the trouble with this is, for anyone to believe that this is really most russian and the ukraine, that is to actually ignore the fact that, for years, in that location'south this dark-green left energy constituency trying to become u.s. into electrical cars. ane % of americans have electric cares. i don't care how much kamala wants to go up at that place and laugh and giggle and say imagine. i feel like i'k in the middle of a john lennon song. i'm not going to drive an electric car right abroad and we've got to get oil and gas from somewhere. we can do it in the united states, nosotros already know that. this is what i this think is most insulting to the american people. if you really think the people

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that produce oil are non chomping at the bit saying holy moly it's 130 bucks a butt, i've got to get myself into this business organisation, i want to make some coin. they tin can't even get a permit to make a road to get to the site where the lease takes them let alone decide whether or non at that place'southward oil or gas, whether or not they tin drill. i mean, everything they're doing is anti american. >> jesse: you know the people that most geraldo if you lot're making 50, 60 grand a yr. >> yous talking about rich people? oil people? >> jesse: talkinging about regular americans. >> i do know regular americans. >> jesse: if you lot're making that much money and spending a hundred dollars to make full your truck, how long can you lot look for a air current mull. >> my fear jesse is that nosotros are he a burial the lead. the lead is no more russian claret oil. that's the pb. so russia has been hit. now with the sanction, the only

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sanction that they truly fear was a cutoff of their only product. russia, afterward all is a commencement world arm, third world country gas station, that's all it is. it produces oil and gas. then nosotros've injure them. we finally have hit them where it hurts. they are killing civilians and unleashed this massive refugee crisis. they have destroying this poor state, ukraine, on their edge. i wanted to stick it to them and i recollect the president finally has. exxon, mobile and chevron, as you know, today appear that they are increasing production in the basin for exactly the reasons judge jeanine that yous suggest, they want to cash in. just i too think that we have to get with caution. these oil speculateers are the wolves of wall street. these are the people that collection the price of a barrel of oil downward to nada at a certain point considering of speculation. >> jesse: wasn't that during the pandemic? >> in that location'due south a lot of profit tearing going on is my betoken and i think if you lot merely say information technology'south all

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virtually biden not drilling you lot're missing some of the truth. >> judge jeanine: are you serious? >> i'm serious. >> jesse: sometimes. >> you may take me unserious simply i'm serious. >> greg: good news is mcdonald's pulling out of russian and then no gas from them. >> jesse: russian federation anns volition get skinnier from that. >> potential game changer in ukraine, poland offering to send zelenskyy fighter jets: u and d♪ and it's easy to customize your insurance at libertymutual.com so y'all only pay for what you need. isn't that right limu? limu? limu? sorry, ane sec. doug blows several unlike whistles. doug blows several unlike whistles. [a vulture squawks.] at that place he is. only pay for what you demand.

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>> dana: ukrainian president zelenskyy refusing to back down despite russian military attacks on his country.

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zelenskyy revealing his location in the war torn capitol kyiv and sending this defiant message. >> i think here in kyiv at bancova street. i don't hide and i'k not afraid of anyone. i will stay here as long equally is necessary to win in our patriotic war. >> dana: and as president zelenskyy begs for more help announcing it is priored to deploy might go 29 fighter jets at an air base in germany giving the us an opportunity to transfer them to ukraine. the land department says they were caught off-guard. let's go to mike the lead in ukraine. adept evening, mike. i remember it'southward simply after midnight in that location. >> it is. and poland was reluctant to brand this move fearing that glace gradient to combat of east versus west if they were to donate the aircraft and suddenly at that place came this announcement today that poland would donate its fleet of

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mig 29s with the promise they would dorsum fill up them with f 15s. us officials say they were bullheaded sided abreast the announcing. here'southward the secretary of state. >> when i saw that announcement by the government of poland as i was literally driving here today, to my knowledge, it wasn't pre consulted with us that they planned to requite these planes to us. but, as you know, we have been having consultations with them for a couple of days now about this request from the ukrainians to receive their aircraft. >> now the ukrainians would welcome this development because their pilots are trained to wing the migs and there seems to be a mechanism through which the polish authorities tin can put information technology back on nato by putting the planes dorsum into the air forcefulness base. just, again, the ukrainians have requested time and time again for a no-fly zone or the way the ukrainians put it, to close the sky. they experience it would very -- it

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would be a step toward equalizing this fight. in fact, i of the refugees that i spoke with yesterday said they very much desire to shut the skies because if you can take the fight to the footing, he said, we'd impale them like rats. guys, back to you >> dana: mike tobin thank you stay safe and see you later this night i'chiliad sure. jesse what do you think nearly this move by the pols? >> jesse: pols really tried to force their hand, didn't they? i don't retrieve they want their hands dirty but practise we want our dirty? why transfer them to technically an a the states air base in frg. it seems convoluted but over again this i is trying to drag american into this. this is a nato alliance, defensive alliance, allow's not expand information technology and play a game of chicken with somebody who has nothing to lose. putin has zip to loose. economic system is cratering. this is his concluding gasp here.

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this is all or nothing for him and why would y'all play chicken with someone similar that? he's but going to go all out so information technology'southward incredibly risky. i would just like to be a little more measured. yous give them things here, we requite them things in that location, ramp up, see how russia reacts. because if we only start sending air crafts into that war zone, what happens if that pilot engages a russian anti shipping battalion downwards on the ground. so we're taking out russian anti aircraft in russian proper or republic of belarus? that'southward how you have to defend yourself in the sky. i'grand afraid of this spiralling out of control. we went in the unabridged cold war with never having to go into a shooting war with the russians and all of a sudden we're going to escalate on their forepart door. i like the idea -- this is a proxy state of war correct? proxy war right on their doorstep, i get information technology, that'due south where we are now, but the jet thing seems a picayune risky.

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and i'm not gear up to say, hey, biden, you're commander in chief, you're in charge, i trust you. this is non a guy i trust to manage this type of delicate bargain with the russians who are drastic right at present. >> dana: the other matter is, earlier today nosotros were told that in that location was frustration that this decision making was stuck at the white firm and nosotros asked the admiral virtually that and he said, no, no, no, everything's fine. clearly not everything is fine geraldo if the pols said okay we will forcefulness your hand and send these >> geraldo: i think the whole idea in theory is fine and noble and sounds like it would exist objective and answer our nagging, you know, gut wrenching feeling that nosotros're assuasive the ukrainians to exist pummeled from the air by the russian air superiority but i don't encounter it happening. mechanically what do you do? send the ukrainian pilot to frg, then you've got to check them out. you take to make certain they can

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integrate the polish instrumentation with the ukrainian air defenses. >> dana: that's what happened in world war two >> geraldo: in world state of war ii it happened just it took a long time and europe is all the same mad at us for taking and so long to get involved and engaged. i like the idea in theory, i just don't see it. i agree with jesse virtually the demand to exist measured and non provoke, you know, a wounded king of beasts there. one quick thing virtually zelenskyy and his condom. i think zelenskyy is already immortal. he's already leonitis or churchill. they can't impale him. even if they exercise he will live on forever. i don't think we should be poking putin, he's made his signal, been very flamboyant and now i want him to keep safe. >> dana: judge you have a pensive wait on your face.

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>> judge jeanine: i have to tell you u.s. has ever taken the lead with nato and i think, you lot know, accept this is very complicated. but i also recall that if poland is willing to give, you know, the migs to the ukrainians, and that our job would exist to back fill up, what is the problem? and you mentioned information technology geraldo and i throw this out for discussion only, with ukrainians getting that plane from poland or from germany? and flying it? i mean, these -- we're watching the massacre of a nation and children -- this is can balanceism what's going on. it's terrorism >> geraldo: i agree with yous. >> estimate jeanine: this is mid evil. so, whoa, nosotros take to brand certain they know how to threw i the plane. baloney. allow them -- if nosotros tin can get the planes to them -- make no error, putin is going to change the rules at every turn. if you provide a plane, yous're provoking u.s.. if you lot exercise this, you're provoking me. at some point we've got to stand and say nosotros're stronger than

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you lot are y'all fiddling -- >> what if he fires a tactical nuclear weapon? >> approximate jeanine: that's the problem. that's the problem. and what if nosotros like kowtow and then he has no incentive to not do it. nosotros're not going to do our nuclear exercises because nosotros don't want to intimidate him. we take the wrong guy in the white house. >> greg: i think the overarching message is we should be very weary based on messages coming out of ukraine or russia. there's a lot of stuff we hear most that turns out to not be true. the media is framing this in a way that -- this isn't my illustration this is how i experience. that ukraine is like the child of a divorce and they're fighting for custody, and russia is the biological parent and we are the step mom who doesn't want the abusive dad to become him. that may not be an accurate analogy but that's how i feel the narrative dynamic is going, and i see -- this is what i give

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credit to zelenskyy is that this is the old world versus the new globe. putin thinks the world is only about seizing land and zelenskyy understands you're seizing minds now. he's fighting a persuasive battle for minds and i can canning putin's butt on this. whether the stuff zelenskyy is saying is try, it'southward positively trumpian. i love zelenskyy the style the guy who feeds him pellets because i'g in a manufacture where i honey getting the pellet every day. just you have to wonder when you're listening whether these pellets are real or not whether we're being artificially pulled into a conflict, correct, through this david and goliath narrative that we're given >> geraldo: but it's true >> greg: possibly it is. maybe it is. i'm not saying it's not true. but i'm maxim you take to exist enlightened of what's true versus what stands out. every day planes leave every second of the 24-hour interval.

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the only thing that stands out is when a plane crashes. so we like the stuff that stands out to be reported but it's non necessarily representative of reality. nosotros take to ask ourselves every day are we being manipulated into entering a war that we should be no part of it and i resent anybody saying you must be pro russian or pro putin. no, i'm pro american >> geraldo: you have to believe your eyes >> greg: i don't think we should go involved >> geraldo: getting involved giving them everything they perchance demand that nosotros have -- like the javelin, the stingers, the other shoulder fired missiles. knocking helicopters and aircraft and russians out of the sky. if the story is true that david is now mus terring his forcefulness and taking on goliath successfully and convoys are stalled and tanks abandoned and crews surrendered, you know, it

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should happen. >> dana: ahead putin's assault gets even deadlier after another attack on ukraine. nosotros'll evidence you the latest. ♪♪ ♪♪ ♪♪ ♪♪ ♪♪ ♪♪ ♪♪ ♪♪ get up and go with best western rewards! the right place, the correct value, right where you're wanting to be. prepare to welcome you. let'south get. stay condom. at present get double all-time western rewards points on every stay. and with rewards points that never expire

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the path is gilded with the potential for rich returns. >> geraldo: russian's inhuman and innocent attacks on innocent civilians continues. 21 people slaughtered in an air strike including two fiddling children today and putin's murderous madness doesn't end there. infirmary attacks, ambulances across the country reportedly getting hit. russia violating ceasefire agreements that putin previously agreed to ruthlessly shelling evacuation routes deliberately targeting ukrainians as they endeavor to abscond. y'all know, judge, did yous see the new york times yesterday in the morning? a pic with dario the two children's heads and the 3--. >> estimate jeanine: yes >> geraldo: somebody is guilty of an atrocious war crime there and he stands accused now by the

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entire world. but, as a parent or, you know, yard parent, y'all run across those little children with their picayune puppy coats, the quilt coats they wearable to school and their little school bags and the knapsack on the back. i mean, come up on. we've got to understand that our accolade is tied to ukraine's survival. >> guess jeanine: ane of the things that i think about is the fact that america at one time was seen every bit the number i super power, you know, the land that everybody dies, literally, to come to in order to starting time a life here. and we're like kind of similar cowering in the dorsum. it'southward not as though zelenskyy didn't ask us in october, ask the biden administration in october, november, for some military back up, and, you lot know, information technology's not like we didn't know virtually this. and today nosotros decide, after 13 days of bloodshed, that we tin't fifty-fifty accept it anymore, we're going to finish buying russian oil. look, the problem is that this is right in front of the states that nosotros're seeing children die,

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children with tumors not getting their chemo treatment, and we're just sitting hither and proverb, whoa, yous know, we have to lookout man this rule and that dominion. baloney. this is well-nigh man beings helping other human being beings. and the refugee crisis god bless poland taking ane.ii one thousand thousand. they took a whole agglomeration in 2014. look at these children crying ripped away from families ripped apart. imagine what it'due south like to say i'm never going home and never going to be in my own bed over again and leaving. we accept to practise something. i'grand sorry. i mean, i'yard not into this, you know, we tin't be suicidal about it simply we've got to be more humane most information technology >> geraldo: on that point isn't your point of state of war with feeling that we must assistance that we tin can't permit these -- >> jesse: of class >> geraldo: how do you reconcile >> jesse: proverb her middle and her mind. if the president gets out on national tv and gives a oral communication

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and says american national security is at steak in ukraine and here is why, and he made that case, you lot would have people scratching their head and proverb perhaps we should do a no-fly zone. he has non made that instance. i have not heard that case from a lot of people. united states of america has non intervened in a lot of wars throughout the globe, genocide, man ending. a lot. okay? information technology's right now up to nato to defend nato countries. if article five is triggered of class you go in. of grade at present you merely throw every bit many weapons at this as you possibly can and back up the hell out of the ukrainians because it is a proxy state of war, we have to fight it to the death now. but, geraldo, i'm agape, i'm agape of going in and having a jet shot down. i'm afraid of biden bumbling us into war in europe once more like nosotros accept a couple times in our history. i don't similar it and russian federation looks scary right now backed upwardly confronting a corner.

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what's stopping them from topping a tactical nuke from scaring us away. what exercise nosotros do then? what do we practice and so? >> geraldo: first-class question and information technology is the dilemma we all face up. what practice you remember of the move by, i think by and large republicans, in the former policy institution, where the no-wing zone would only be for the protection of civilians existence evacuated. limited. >> dana: once more, simply depends how you're going to define it merely i recollect fifty-fifty every bit you lot get closer and closer to proverb somebody would exist a no-fly zone. to jeannine's point putin is going to say no matter what you do -- the fact we woke upwards this morn is a provocation to him. everything is a provocation. but i would similar to talk a moment almost the humanitarian problems. the international red cross is a great place if you want to try to aid. the pols are doing a lot merely so is romania and slovakia. they need help in guild to do that.

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in that location's a lot of trauma experienced past the women and children that take fled and the elder citizens who had to go out with anything they tin can find. i would love to see creativity on the idea of a humanitarian corridor. is in that location someone, swiss or somebody that can say permit us endeavor to do information technology and let them try to figure out a way to get people to condom and run into if putin would allow that. that might be some sort of creative way >> geraldo: how about the chinese? >> dana: it did cantankerous my mind but i wasn't going to say information technology. but, yeah, sure, requite them a task. the other thing is, i think that the outset lady has an opportunity here to bring together the living former first ladies along with the kickoff ladies of europe or the start gentlemen in some cases, and figure out a way to get some humanitarian relief to these people in terms of a fund raising effort or something like that. there would be a willingness to do that and the outpouring would be remarkable beyond the country >> geraldo: i sense, greg, in you a conflict. that you're not convinced with

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the prevailing narrative. >> greg: that's a pretty good assessment. i can feel the galvanizing force of these stories that kind of accept sped up and are accumulating to create a narrative. and they but go in one management. and i understand why they just go in 1 direction, because it's the invaded who feel the atrocity, correct? and that's all we're going to see. still, i can't aid merely feel that this is a lot similar other stories that we've gone through in the digital age in which an image is taken and so played over and over and over again to create some kind of emotional response out of you, because that makes a turn a profit for news companies, right? then we had, for a long catamenia of fourth dimension at that place, nosotros saw nothing only videos of police brutality so, over time, we discovered the mundane realities that constabulary were interacting with suspects in loftier crime areas, and that led to certain kinds of problems. that'due south the mundane reality. simply, instead, we were pummeled,

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pummeled with images of police brutality which led to a year of riots. there'southward some expert things and bad things coming out of this era. this is a crisis you're seeing in the digital age which ways there'south almost a self healing chapters arnold the world everybody can join in and practise something well-nigh it, i call back that's good, whether humanitarian or what. we're all seeing it at the aforementioned time. there are crisis like this that has happened for thousands of years and we didn't know. we merely didn't know. nosotros didn't see information technology. the bad part is at that place is this galvanizing kind of narrative that is there to create a reaction, and if somebody similar me says, hold on a second, and you try to counter the drum trounce, you're seen every bit an inconsiderate cold harded pussy. but if you lot amplify that story, why can't up you exist called pro state of war. if you want to push this stuff why can't i call you go along war? we're stuck in the prison of two ideas right at present where you either have to be 1 way or you take to exist the other. information technology's non as clear equally that.

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it'south somewhere in the heart and simply saying that you have to practise something is not plenty. only because the news is pushing these videos at you doesn't mean y'all've got to exercise something machine man and on the other hand, i cannot lindsey's photo of the ii dead piddling children, and they were dead unequivocally. >> greg: nosotros forget a lot of things that happen hither >> geraldo: more than on the ukrainian -- ukrainian. serenity. >> dana: oh, no >> geraldo: more than on the ukrainian suffering crisis, a live written report side by side.

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♪♪ . >> guess jeanine: the refugee crisis getting worse past the hour. more than two million people have already fled ukraine including 1 1000000 children. families being ripped autonomously from their loved ones equally they desperately try to survive. benjamin hall is live in kyiv with more on this. >> good evening, judge. and speaking of someone on the ground, i want to say that this

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is not the media trying to drum up some emotional response. this is absolutely what'south happening in the cities of kharkiv maripol they are existence flattened and people are fleeing to safety. two million have gone. in the city of maripol people are drinking from puddles considering the russian forces vice-president allowed them to go out. when they try to go out they're shelled. the ruby cross buses accept been unable to get in. it's an accented ending and the people caught in in the centre are the ones suffering. don't take it from my word take it from the word of some of those trying to flee. take a heed. >> we are adjust saving our lives. that's information technology. that'southward all we can do here. >> what take you left backside? >> everything. everything. we have two bags, and that's it. >> there is more video than we know what to do with, so often does it come in and and then

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widespread. it is a tragic tragic matter that is happening in this country. we will continue to embrace information technology for you lot here on the footing merely it is simply set to become worse. back to you. >> thank you so much benjamin. and if y'all would like to help out the refugee relief efforts, visit redcross.org or scan the qr lawmaking on the bottom right of your screen. fox corporation has donated $1 1000000 to the american red cross. y'all, too, can join us past altruistic to provide aid and resources to those in need in ukraine. you know what, geraldo, you're very passionate about this. i'll get to you. the description of what'southward going on is, according to unicef, a dark, historical first. there is a refugee situation created that is unlike anything nosotros've e'er seen in history. information technology takes individuals to resolve this. the government'southward not going to resolve information technology. >> geraldo: well, i recollect y'all're right in this sense. when y'all expect at what the shine

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people take done, it makes me -- i could cry. how they've opened their land to these refugees. half of all the refugees take gone to poland. poland, remember, couple years ago was office of the soviet block. they were a communist land. they were, you know, our enemy. now look at them. they are fully democratic, they are welcoming these needy people saying come to us, taking their historic role. i admire them so, so much. i actually, i recollect that poland has really stepped up. >> judge jeanine: i think a lot of people accept. and you know, jesse, what'due south interesting is the eu is offering those escaping the war a visa waiver to alive and work in whatever of the countries in the eu for the adjacent three years. i mean, that didn't take them long at all. they merely figured that out. >> jesse: well, yes, this is their neighborhood and they reacted very speedily. to our discussion that we merely had and what nosotros've been hearing

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hither, the american people could change their heed about what they experience our role should be in ukraine. it could get and so horrific after a little while that we could just modify our entire adding. how i experience and how i call back the american people right now is that, sanctions are really starting to destroy this economy. this is a very, very short state of war and so far, 10 days old. allow's see how this plays out. it's non -- information technology hasn't been over similar that. ukrainian people are putting up a hell of a fight. allow's not jump into something. it'south actually like shooting fish in a barrel to get into a war, impossible to become out most of the time. that's how the people experience right at present. and that could modify. but right now that is not the american people how they feel. >> judge jeanine: dana we're not suggesting nosotros jump into the war but is in that location more than we could practice. >> dana: in that location's a couple things. 1 get our ain energy house in club and i remember our president barely took a step forward that

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the individual sector has to do that and the american people have to say look 75% of united states of america desire to have more domestic oil and gas production because nosotros've seen what happened to europe over time several decades they basically advocated their security, national security to other countries trying to keep green. the other affair to keep in listen is the free energy crisis and the problems happening at present at the ports means that there's going to be a major food crisis in the world. because a lot of grain and wheat comes out of ukraine. about 30% for the earth. so automatically that's off the table. and today you heard that china is ownership up all the grain that information technology maybe tin. so now the prices are going to become upward. our globe food plan already had half the amount of rations to people in refugee camps similar in yemen for example. when you lot have a food crisis that leads to more uprising. the problem that is happening in ukraine right now, that war is going to have ripple effects

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around the earth in which america is asked to take a leading role we have to figure out what to do well-nigh it. >> judge jeanine: last discussion greg >> greg: what do you think, should i take benjamin hall's cheap attack on me or exist a good co-worker and let it slide. >> dana: remember what you said about our reporters last calendar week >> greg: i said wonderful things. >> jesse: also bad things. >> greg: i will be the berman here. as i said earlier when this started, we want the quickest end possible. my concern has always been, when a narrative creates a story that bulsters ane side, that is out of its chemical element will you create more suffering. that is the uncomplicated indicate i'm making is that could this accept been prevented if there was a reality-based determination made and non the david and goliath narrative which could prolong this and pb to more suffering and more humanitarian crisis. >> judge jeanine: 2 sides. what two sides? you've got putin who attacked ukraine. >> greg: yes.

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>> judge jeanine: what are the two sides? is information technology justified. >> greg: practice you have fourth dimension practise you desire to talk about it or do you want to stick to the simplicity. >> judge jeanine: you mean there'south some justification on the attacks past russian to ukraine >> greg: this is the problem y'all can't really talk substance most this. >> ane sentence. >> greg: information technology has been going on for decades. >> estimate jeanine: this is different the middle east >> up next, signs of losing control in russian as they violently scissure downwards on his own people. as a struggling actor, i demand all the breaks that i can go. at freedom butchemel... cut. liberty mu... line? cutting. liberty mutual customizes your car insurance so you only pay for what you need. cut. liberty 1000... am i immune to riff? what if i come out of the water? freedom biberty... cut. nosotros'll dub it. freedom mutual customizes your machine insurance so you only pay for what yous need. simply pay for what you demand. ♪ liberty. liberty. liberty. liberty. ♪

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>> greg: vladimir putin continuing to crevice down on russians protesting his invasion into ukraine. more than xiii,000 protesters have reportedly been arrested in the by two weeks including nearly 5,000 this past sunday alone. i heard someone make an interesting point dana, that russian is destroying decades of economic progress, or putin is destroying russia'due south decades. it's basically a sequel to the collapse of the ussr. this is like the second go around to putin to practice that once more. >> dana: that'due south interesting because what he was trying to do is respond the ussr and it was like whoops. it'southward non just the whoops. >> we're talking about information, how do you get information.

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1 of the things that authoritarian regimes i put putin in that category they effigy out a way to wall off the internet and then you lot access to information technology but there are very smart people around the world that are attacking, at that place are virtual prophylactic rooms where yous can can search the cyberspace and discover the information y'all need. young people in russian federation will figure this out and prove other people to find those things and we should support those efforts also >> greg: jesse putin is one-time school in a new school. i don't retrieve he understands what is going on outside this world in social media. maybe he doesn't take to intendance. but i don't think that he understands how the earth is looking at this. or he cares. >> jesse: yep. i don't think he thinks his people care as much as they do but the rubles lost half its valuable so everything is literally twice as expensive. they can't travel or apply credit cards and this is going to be twice as bad every bit i call up banking implosion in '98. they're going to contract their

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gdp something like double digits. this is so bad for the russian people they're going to take to build more prisons than they already have to arrest more protesters. to your point nearly wheat? that'south possibly when y'all do have to practice something, in the mediterranean, you might accept to transport naval assets over there because you have to command this somehow >> greg: geraldo y'all've had pandemic, we've had state of war and now we're upwardly for dearth. this is truly biblical stuff >> geraldo: the horsemen of the apocalypse. russia seems to be unraveling. every bit an observing it seems to be unraveling. this guy is ending all defence that sprung up. the thing that really troubles me is his growling about nukes. every time something, he gets pressed he growls about nukes. and i just worry, i really worry well-nigh it. >> greg: what practice you call back

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judge? russia. >> judge jeanine: i retrieve russia is in the almost time to come the aforementioned equally ukraine in terms of their being crushed by this guy putin. not the aforementioned way, just that they're going to be suffering economically, financially, food-wise. and expression-wise. they're being arrested on the street and he'due south going to finish them, too. and we'll see. we'll see if they get rid of him >> greg: all correct, more breaking news from ukraine next. ♪♪ ♪ i've traveled every road in this here land! ♪ ♪ i've been everywhere, homo. ♪ ♪ i've been everywhere, human being. ♪ ♪ crossed the desert's blank, man. ♪ ♪ i've breathed the mountain air, man. ♪ ♪ of travel i've had my share, man. ♪ ♪ i've been everywhere. ♪ ♪ i've been to: pittsburgh, parkersburg, ♪ ♪ gravelbourg, colorado, ♪ ♪ ellensburg, cedar city, dodge city, what a pity. ♪ ♪ i've been everywhere, man. ♪ .

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♪ >> jesse: welcome back, everybody. russian federation continuing its roughshod assault on ukraine. let's go around the table for some final thoughts. estimate jeanine? >> judge jeanine: the humanitarian crisis is going to continue until the cessation of hostilities. information technology doesn't seem like that is going to happen soon. we are going to be seeing this for a lot longer. >> jesse: yep. we will. geraldo? >> geraldo: putin hates us and our fashion of life and our

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liberties. he wants to end the postal service world state of war ii guild. he wants to absolutely brand democracies obsolete. this is the common cold state of war part ii. this further away. >> bret: if you want to keep going around the table i'm expert. all right. all right. next time. thanks, jesse. good evening, welcome information technology washington. i'k bret baier. breaking this evening. president biden says the u.due south. will not be part of subsidizing vladimir putin'south state of war in ukraine. today the president announceds a ban on russian oil imports. it's a move the administration has warned will issue in higher fuel prices alee already record numbers at the pump. also this evening officials in poland say they will send making 29 fighter jets from poland to

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